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"nunca muerte" santeria medicinal plant identification?

topic posted Thu, October 18, 2007 - 11:45 PM by  Unsubscribed
a friend recently asked me if I knew anything about
" nunca muerte " , an allegedly medicinal plant.

I had never heard of such a thing, nor did a search yield any results.

she told me that on her trip through south america, she had been given a single
leaf of it by (in her words) "a santeria medicine woman" and told that is was called
nunca muerte, meaning -never dead- .
nearly two weeks later she returned home and put the leaf in a pot and watered it
and it became a whole new plant.

the plant in the included picture is what happened when she kept another leaf in
shallow water for a month.

she was told nothing more than that it was "good medicine" and to eat it or make tea,
and got the impression it was highly regarded.

do you know what this plant might be?

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thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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  • Alberta
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    Re: "nunca muerte" santeria medicinal plant identification?

    Fri, October 19, 2007 - 9:04 AM
    That plant is called prodigosa, and is sacred to Obatala.
    Alberta, Olo Obatala
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      Re: "nunca muerte" santeria medicinal plant identification?

      Sat, October 20, 2007 - 8:11 AM
      the siempre vivo seemed right because of the name similarity and the pics
      are very similar but she says there is no red/purple and neither this, nor the plant
      it came from has / was flowering.
      I thought maybe this could be because it may not
      have recently had ideal conditions.

      they would seem obviously related because of their similar appearance,
      behavior and heartyness.

      maybe (pure speculation) it is called -never dead- to differentiate between
      it and -always living- while still obviously reflecting their similarities.?

      Alberta-
      do you know the scientific name for the prodigosa? a search yielded no real results.
      and do you know if it is used in similar ways?

      thanks for your knowledge!

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        Re: "nunca muerte" santeria medicinal plant identification?

        Thu, March 20, 2008 - 4:56 PM
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          Re: "nunca muerte" santeria medicinal plant identification?

          Mon, July 7, 2008 - 1:24 PM
          Well, the plant i know from south america that is seen as a "never die" plant is the amaranthus, and this plant does exactly what you said. When it's dry and dead, you put it in water and then it becomes alive, and grows again. Even it's medicinal, and it's use for many diseases. Besides it's name is the same meaning, "amaranthus / never die". The common name for this plant is "Rosa de Jerico". I hope this can help you.
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