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How Far is too far for a Godparent to Live?

topic posted Fri, June 11, 2010 - 6:20 AM by  Unsubscribed
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Recently my Godmother moved to Arizona and I am concerned. My primary concern is how will I learn without her being here and I won't be able to participate in things to learn; as an Iyawo I don't want to go anywhere unescorted, and I dont' want to be a Santera in name only. The secound concern is finding a good yobonna thats closer. In Philly everybody wants u to be Yoruba because ur a Bleack women; I'm not interested. Both communities r very closed to strangers and prejudice absolutely exists in both facets of the religion.....I just don't know what to do. I don't trust easy...HELLLP!!!!!
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  • I think it is very difficult when your godparents are far away. I learn best not by books but by following and duplication, thats how I learned to cook and that's how I became proficient in my work... I wish I had someone near by that could teach me about the correct way to peform daily and weekly rituals the right way. I know a lot of people around here say as long as you do it from the heart that is all that matters. I don't agree. I believe that doing thongs the correct way is just as important as doing it sincerely.
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    I think your best bet is to do your best as a iyawo and visit your godparent when you can to learn. You can also ask her to suggest someone you can apprentice with in her absence. Telephone as often as possible and get what you can in conversation. The thing to keep in mind is that some of us have ideal situations and others don't, either way you just play the cards that you are dealt. Do the right thing respect your godmother, seek to learn and keep in mind that you will have the opportunity to increase your knowledge throughout your life. Get through your yawo year as best you can, many learn tons as iyawo, many don't, but everyone should be trying to be the best iyawo that they can be. Its a period best spent getting to know the new you and forming/strengthening your bonds with Orisa.

    Iba Orisha
  • Re: How Far is too far for a Godparent to Live?

    Fri, June 11, 2010 - 10:49 PM
    I believe your godmother has taken you as far as your spirits wanted, it is now time for you to connect with your inner self and seek the guidance and teachings of your orishas. You can learn anything and everything a person teaches you, but there comes a time when the orishas want a person too stand up on there own and put into practice what has been taught too you, it is too soon 4 u 2B worried about becoming a godmother or even what is too become of you yet or the even the next step in priesthood, 4 when the time is right and the orishas feel u are ready you will get to that chapterof your life when the time is right, so clear your mind from those kind of worries and focus that energy onto summoning the orishas too teach and guide you with what you have already learned and need too know in order to have a full understanding of the blessings that have already been placed onto your path. Keep a clean and clear mind and pray too them on teaching you truth. Meaning the true way on how the religion works, but most importantly finding a connection with them, so that they can open your eyes, ears and mind too follow there consejos and teachings. 4 the orisha must open your inner eyes in order to see, hear and feel their powers, pray too Yemaya who is your mother too teach you to be a strong and successful santera. You can learn all the tricks and secrets in the world but if you don't have a constant communication with your inner guide then everything you have been taught will be lost... The orishas are now looking 4 you to acknowledge them with your mind to understand what they are showing you and the ability to comprehend the signs and messages, and the blessing to effectively articulate those messages and signs, your eyes to see and acknowledge their messages and signs, and the power to hear messages relayed to you by others that come in contact with you or by media interpretations and most importantly the ability to feel their power that surrounds each and everyone of us, 4 no godparent can teach you that 4 we are different it must be taught by your guides in order to succeed in this next chapter of your life...Go to the feet of your orishas with the worries that cloud your mind and ask them too assist you on this next journey of your life that you are about to embark on.... Yemaya is waiting and will always recieve you with open arms, tell her your concerns and start taking lots of banos using coconut water to refresh your head and ask her to come too you with the same intentions your coming to her with, always with a beautiful heart and sound mind and above all a clear conscious. Tahirah for Yemaya knows your truth, and is waiting too hear from you b-cause she knows your worries and will b-able to resolve this 4 you. 4 everytime you finish praying she sees you getting on the computer b4 getting ready 4 work.
    • I would like to thank you for this post. I know it was met for Tahirah, and I am sure she will have comfort from it.
      However, in your words you spoke to me too. I now know that people including spiritual teachers are with you for a reason, season, or a life time. I was mad that my Madrina made her transistion and did not take me through my Ocha. I really was upset about it. I also knew that the last time I saw her she looked as if she looked at the world as if it was for the last time. When I got the news of her passing, it was like a stabbing right through my heart. I have found it hard, but remembered all that she taught me. I talk about her alot because she taught us well and always had little sayings that I still use. Sometimes I can hear her saying don't drown in a glass of water. Just because something didn't go right for me. But this morning your words connected with me about a few things. Can you really put into practice what you were taught. I have realized that for a couple of years now, but today your points rang true in my heart. It was like I am being tested and found an answer to one of the questions. I know that what Yaya is saying is true about the teachers and asking and receiving. Thank you both for being a light for this traveler. Sometimes you just have to listen and the answer will come. KNow that I found comfort in this post this morning.
      • Re: How Far is too far for a Godparent to Live?

        Sat, June 12, 2010 - 12:42 PM
        Ziggy people come and go it was your godmothers orishas and positive vibrations you fell in love with and that has not died, for it was already dead, but you can find that connection again by allowing yourself to trust the right people who has a connection with their inner guide. May your journey be filled with blessings....
  • Re: How Far is too far for a Godparent to Live?

    Fri, June 11, 2010 - 11:03 PM
    Sorry 4 got 2 mention too pray on the fact that you need a youbona, placed on to your path that you will respect and appreciate it....She will definitely place someone onto your path, or take you under her wing herself until the time is right.... Because she knows the problem regarding finding reputable, honest people..So she'll place someone onto your path that she likes and respects. Good luck baby girl...
    • Re:how far is to far for a god parent to live?

      Sat, June 12, 2010 - 3:03 PM
      Iyawo T take comfort in all that everyone has posted here! I know how you feel as I was separated from my god parents during my iyaworaje. Each day I spoke to them on the phone but it didn't feel quite right as having them there with me. It takes time but now is the time to put your wants, anger & ego aside and sit with your muertos and orisas and get in tune with them as they will be your guides. Your god mother probably moved on the advice of her orishas and don't feel that she has abandoned you sweety she hasn't, it was her time to travel. She misses you too ok so dry your eyes pick up the phone and call her, she has some remedies that will help you get through the rest of your year. Allison
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    Thank U Iba, Nelly, Yaya, Allison, Ziggy and everyone who responded.....Yaya ur response brought tears to my eyes...U know A Babalawo once told me in a reading that I would publisize the Orisha...didn't know what he meant then, but a few months later I developed a web site called Daughters iof Yemaja....two onths later Yemaja showed me her collares in a vision, the next day 2 my bajada she claimed my head...so I know she hears all my prayers.....i think I'm just sad cause i just moved m baby girl to another state, gave my other daughter a house to live in alone, and lost a very dear friendship in this religion that i respected, then my Godmother moved to Arizona...not an iyawo yet guys, not for a few more months...just feeling alone and a little frightened...thank you for all ur care, concern and heart felt responses...I needed them cause here lately I have been dreaded like the plague.

    Much Luv


    Tahirah
    • Aww Tahirah don't be sad.... Sometimes things may seem overwhelming but meditation clears my head. I have started a seven day fast and seven days of spiritual baths. No food till after sun down and strictly vegetarian meals, I drink water all day. I cant say I can relate to everything that you are going through but I feel you sadness and stress.
      Much love and Blessings to you
      Nelly
      • Re: How Far is too far for a Godparent to Live?

        Mon, June 14, 2010 - 10:39 AM
        Tahirah..i know what u mean..my godparents dont live next to me..but im a phone call away..i know thats not enough...but girl..sometimes the bird needs to leave the nest...;-) not for good..thats not what i mean...but sometimes..we do stand on our own..dont worry..they will be looking from far..my sister..i know thats easyer said then done..when theres so much to learn...but we as god-children..must put to practice what they have all ready tought us..and stay on our feet...baby girl..youll be fine..beleave me..its gonna be hard..but i know your strong from with in...youll miss her like crazy..just like a child would miss there mother or father...girl..been there ..done that..;-)..but..thank god to phones(smile)...i tell my god parents they need a computer with a web cam..so i can see them when i talk to them..(giggle-giggle)..the santo and eggun will be there for u..beleave that..and they know your worrys...if your connection is strong with your godmother...your heart will make it work..so will she..and if not...dont be sad...for we all get a stepping stone..and we as spiritual people must carry everything that has been shared and tought in our hearts...carry it well.. and dont let her down..or your-self..mama..life is a big book.. with chapers that start some where and end in other place ...so we can move on to the next chapter..;-)...its all up to you.....you'll be just fine..beleave me! like i stated...i've been there and done that..theres sometimes i even cry cuz i miss them dearly..but..alittle voice tells me from the back of my head...you'r a big girl and you dont walk alone..i carry my crown with pride and much love...cuz if it wasnt for them...i wouldnt know..what i know now..lil sister..your not alone!(wink).
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    Re: How Far is too far for a Godparent to Live?

    Thu, June 17, 2010 - 11:43 PM
    HI TAHIRAH IM IFABI JOSE OJEDA IM HAVE BEEN INICIATED IN IFA FOR 41 YEARS IM THE FIVETH AWO OF ORUMILA IN THE USA MY FATHER WAS THE FIRST ONE TO BRING OLOFIN FROM CUBA TO THIS UNITED STATES,THE VERY 4 FIRST INICIATED IN IFA WAS DONE IN MY HOME. I HAVE READ WHAT EVERYBODY HAS RESPOND TO YOU AND ALL OF THEM HAVE A TRUE MEANING FROM THE HEART, I THINK WHAT YAYA SAID IS THE VERY TRUE THING YOU SHOULD DO .BECAUSE ITS VERY TRUE THAT YOUR GODMOTHER COULD TEACH YOU A LOT OF WISDOM IN THE RELIGION BUT AND THERE IS A BIG BUT SOMETIME YOUR SPIRIT FOR EXAMPLE: MAY WORK WITH TABACO TO DO CLEANSING AND THE SPIRIT OF YOUR GODMOTHER WORKS WITH SOMETHING ELSE AND THAT IS WHAT YAYA IS TELLING YOU ABOUT TO START LEARNING FROM YOU INNER SELF. AND I THINK WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT NOT TRUSTING EASY IS THE VERY TRUE WAY BECAUSE,ORUMILA TEACH US NOT TO TRUST , FOR EXAMPLE WHEN YOU PUT A ADIMU TO ORUMILA OR YOU KOWFA-FON YOU MUST TRYED THE FOOD IN FRONT OF HIM THERE IS A STORY IN IFA ABOUT THAT. I LOT PEOPLE IN THIS RELIGION COULD GIVE YOU VERY GOOD ADVISED ON HOW TO DO THINGS BUT THE ONE THAT HAS THE LAST WORD IN EVERYTHING IS YOUR LIFE IS YOUR EGGUN, AND YOUR OSHA YEMAYA, AND REMENBER THIS ALL OF YOU DAUGHTERS & SONS OF YEMAYA WHERE THEY SOLVE ALL THERE PROBLEMS WHEN THEY CANT FIND RESULTS TO YOUR PROBLEMS GO AND SEE YOU GODFATHER IN IFA TO CONSULT WITH ORUMILA AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT WILL SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM YOU HAVE , SINCERLY THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN SECRET OF OMO OF YEMAYA.
    APETERBI IBORU,APETERBI IBOYA,APETERBI IBOSHOHSE.
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      Re: How Far is too far for a Godparent to Live?

      Fri, June 18, 2010 - 12:30 PM
      GRACIAS JOSE....MAY ORUNLA BLESS U...IT'S FUNNY U RESPONDED WITH THIS POST TODAY, BECAUSE I JUST CALLED MY BABALAWO TODAY AND WE R GOIG TO MEET AND RESOLVE THESE ISSUE....YOU ARE SOOO RIGHT....WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS I ALWAYS FINDS MYSELF AT ORUNLA'S FEET!



      IBORU, IBOYE, IBOCHICHE

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